To Shatter Boys Uk

Thanks for confirming for us,that we survivors are strongly supportive of each other .    I share the vision expressed at the Voicing CSA Meetings. Videos are on Vimeo.

Please post links in comments till my lappy is fixed, meanwhile the Justgiving Appeal is on our pages & i follow The ShatterBoys blog, check sidebar.

Working with existing servces maximises choice and the need for independent ones is vital imho too.  I wish every success to you, four Shatter Boys on your bike ride.

 

 

WOW

It fills me with hope and respect.  Peer support to aid Survivors who wish to engage with the Inquiry, solutions for NOW and engagement for effective ways to create change.

Outstanding.  From a shatter girl

 

Sheva Burton

 

 

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Lots added to the list so that the good sites, helping to end child abuse, and help survivors heal the effects, can find the best help available, some updates to the unfortunately, needed Blacklist too, so that networks can be alerted, and hopefully those that know how to, can help rake out the fakes, that are using internet trickery to overwhelm google esp UK , so that the best can shine.

Thanks to everyone for the encouragement and appreciation, it has been difficult to navigate this, but it is necessary, and not at all, to cause division, or stifle free speech, which are some of the hostile accusations, as i embarked on this…….   Lots of events coming, and i will try and list those on an events page, seperately, as i find more time, or help 🙂  Click the link for the white list or tab at the top

Be safe, keep safe and as well as possible.

Sheva Burton

(Prev Sue Melrose C.R.O.S.S. Campaign for Rights Of Survivors of Sexual abuse, organisor of 1st Public Rally Against Child Sexual Abuse UK that included men & women, 1993)   Tho i organised 2010, it was co opted, by Truth & Hope, with preplanning from Belinda McKenzie, so that survivors were mainl Continue reading

The White List

Here are some recommended people and groups, working with integrity, we all make errors at times, and trust the wrong people, and as shown some very nasty and subversive tactics have been employed, as well as emotionally charged people, releasing alot of negativity online, many are very negative about the new developments.

It is fair enough, for some, so weary, so tired of being let down, so angry, that whilst perps are getting alot of money spent on their rights, and lighter sentencing, though all improving, only through pressure.  Whilst Survivors/victims have been so badly let down, for so long, but most of us know that more abuse, isn’t the answer.

Certainly i have witnessed people that are amongst groups, stirring trouble or being negative, purposefully, to bring people down, often they are also promoting the fakes, so hence, the warnings i am hoping will be shared.

Those messing with us, i believe are encouraging all the wrong sorts of actions, whilst ignoring all that are working away, whilst challenging, asserting, they keep it non abusive, which is always more effective, in the end.   We have come far.

There is alot of twisting that has gone on.  And i am hoping to help rake out the crap, so that the better people and groups can rise to the challenges right now, and people can support each other, more so, without these dangerous types that have infiltrated.

I digress, below are links to some very real people, who deserve to be supported in their endeavours, so that people can choose their path and part of the campaign,  or get help with any needs that they have, i will be adding to the list of well known, effective sites, going by the survivors recommendations, that i hear, or see.

The links below will take you direct to the websites.

 

Books coming and i will try and put it into sections too soon, but need this info cirulated, it’s an important time.

We have good reason to hope for change and without sabotage, everything within ourselves, our networks, groups, events, to encourage each other, on this journey.

Also for current projects to help right now, with young people incarcerated, or with addictions.  How long is too long………..

I spoke at a Community Forum 20 odd years ago, and piped up that we needed specialist help for CSA Survivors, the speaker glared at me, ‘No funds possible’, i said ‘Your’e already spending money on us, look at any service for the vulnerable, homeless, addicted, there are survivors who need to heal the root cause, which is not a treatable disease, the drugs just suppress us, and we didn’t cause it’,  I’ll come back to this, i met her again, down the road, i have no idea if she hated on me, cos she was a catholic, or what…..but she even told me off for wearing the wrong knickers scornfully, but, that’s another chapter.

Those that can and want to, there will be good events, where the right solutions can be found, if discussed in ways that many of us can.

 

I am tired, but will add and try again to form a comprehensive data base or directory.  I will be adding to this list, as i can.

Most will already have links to more good groups, the facebook groups Cross of Change and Join The Dots have other pages in the likes, which might be useful……I am raking out the crappy ones, please alert others, being infiltrated by them as listed, in my previous blog.  It’s not that i fuly trust the system, nor MP’s, nor all media, etc,  but we Survivors have created new opportunities, and there are many out there, wanting to help, many experienced and able, and many floundering, not knowing how.

We can help……..But the infiltrators have caused some problems and are striking some of the strongest, targetting us for ever more ridiculous and disgusting claims, whilst selling bullshit.

All of the above listed, though have good track records, longterm, and there are more out there, many more.

 

Be safe and as well as possible.

Sheva

 

 

 

 

 

Who are the saboteurs #CSA/familyneeds ~ Spot the Difference !

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2012 Now the HG Hoax leads the Survivors Rally CSA & Family court

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Anti child abuse rally 2013 run by Belinda Mckenzie, Maggie Tuttle, highlighting the hollie hoax.....again.

Anti child abuse rally 2013 run by Belinda Mckenzie, Maggie Tuttle, highlighting the hollie hoax…..again.

 

With oldtime campaigner now deceased. Our banner embraced all others, launched purple ribbon. 2nd Rally 1994

With oldtime campaigner now deceased. Our banner embraced all others, launched purple ribbon. 2nd Rally 1994

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

threats & what the hoaxes lead to

click above for recorded evidence of death threat from a follower of another case promoted by Sabine McNeill, Belinda Mckenzie and those die hard hg hoaxers…..who all also promote…..Fiona Barnett. This threat was towards Veteran Campaigner John Brown, and others downunder, caused by Fiona Barnett & David Shurter falsely accusing them as he has done also to me and others.

More info here:  The Real Deal on CSAinquiry, Royal CommissionAus

And a blacklist Below.

 

I caught Sabine McNeill up to her usual tricks, yesterday, posting the video link at bottom of page, on her ‘PunishmentwithoutCrime’ blog.

Beware Spider Sabines’ Web of Deciept & Blacklist 2.

 

I don’t recommend trying the links there, the Facebook one sent me to a fake lucy one, which had one post, an advert for Developers for WordPress, with the promise of alot of future work.

This was the last conference with Kellie Cottam’s brilliant speech, a Must Hear watch out too, for more truth from the hero herself.  That took courage, much respect.  Kellie speaking truth to belly the eliphantClick for video.

BELINDA McKENZIE Belinda & Angela Power Disney proof Belinda & Angela Power Disney Proof

So these people have certainly badgered the poor MP’s to death, though i do not include John Hemming, who i really think should make a public statement/apology, even.

These people have systematically viralised fake chosen cases, some also have supported real ones, but Hoaxtead Research, link below has evidence easily accessable, in their tabs, on all of their claims and proof is on my blog of how dire and serious the attacks on genuine CSA campaigners are becoming, if we won’t share their BS, we are called paedo supporters, or paedos, government shills, agents, etc….I hope i have managed to paint the picture clearly enough, given that the UK Rallies were co opted 2010.  With hindsight and proven by their actions since, the above list, have demonstrated these dynamics, over and over again.   Many have formed in smaller, tighter, safer groups and are working hard, achieving much, despite and in spite of them, and my list on, So now some good news will be more developed.

The rest ?  i’m really thinking they are being mullered for what’s done, or otherwise ?   yeah i wonder, too. but i do think that for the first time in history, Child Sexual Abuse is on the agenda, in Parliaments, as never before, and we need to stop the wrongun’s from misteering people.   Really unless, like me and many others, you have focussed on this issue for a long time, broadly, you wouldn’t know.  I have witnessed many genuine, vulnerable, emotional people be drawn into their net and games, if people sign the petitions sent out by Sabine’s teams, you can expect to get sudden friends and attention, and if you dare to mind, or disagree or ask the wrong question, many have been bullied, some even to suicide, and many to give up, and never want to come near social media or these issues again, worse though many have also lost their children, who might not have, if better advised.

If we listen and see what they are attempting, here are my observations, impressions and judgements, opinions:

  1. viralise ridiculous, farfetched, made up cases, allowing those who really want us to shut up to use labels that we have worked hard to dismantle, and had achieved, we still are taken more seriously, but:
  2. Frighten people away from sources of real help.  eg. Good campaigners, effective and sound, Good support groups as can be heard from David & Fiona on that interview above. 
  3. Lie and accuse us of threatening or lying, cast doubts on whether we are real survivors and attempt to trigger us.
  4. Use manipulative techniques including NLP, emotional hooks, whilst pretending that another victim has reported being bullied or threatened by one of us, that would never do so. I have written further on this, as has a linked blog, with de bunking info, my view is balanced, and i will also list some decent practitioners out there.  As well as Osteopaths, alot of bodyworkers have found that they may trigger a release of massive emotion, and with us Survivors that can be either dangerous or healing, depending on whether we can, go through that healing crisis with the right help.
  5. Create fake drama, whilst in fact as evidenced, one of their followers have indeed issued death threats
  6. Groom people to believe and support them, how on earth did Bill Maloney & Chris Fay fool so many, including MP’s.

The truth is that the reality is dramatic enough.  For a stark contrast, and a truly spiritual journey, of healing and then extending light to others, to set them free….. This is a powerful film.  I am not religious, but i do believe Jesus, existed, but has just been mis described.  A bit like a friend Kay Ebeling, stuggling, interesting Journalist, writing to survive. luckily, tho, in what sounds like a beautiful home, in North America.  I’ll add her link soon to the coming Worldwide Whitelist, forming on my notepad, Google plus, as well as adding this beautiful Dreamcatchers Foundation Film.

 

That blue list here, Blacklist, on checking a few links for new people to this case, but that are seasoned activists, campaigners, genuine about this, the signs are immediately apparnat, and is enough surely for people to warn their networks, and keep up to date as the lists grow, and the background and developments as these people are arrested, tell even more outrageous lies.   Meanwhile lets keep up the good work ! we are still more effective and there are serious challenges now.

It is important that people network effectively to build a ring of protection that people can trust, those that work with integrity will recommend others, not try to bind people to them and extort everything possible, in terms of attention, money and time.   Please don’t be afraid to change your mind, and get with the good groups, or support them.  I too, was suckered, triggered really badly, and as i can develop my personal story, i think many will be shocked, at the lengths they will go to.

For now though, i want to help people be safer from them, and understand that they are in fact, guilty of all they project and accuse people like me, the innocent people in these cases, and don’t mind bullying and abusing anyone in their way, including children.

But coming from the absolute silence, we are now in a deluge of information, it is important that those who wish to add their truth in whatever way feels comfortable, and the processes can proceed without shabby interference.

Most important is that good sites, groups etc are supported, moreso, without the saboteurs, holding as much influence as has been.

See my next blog post for good sites and more will be added, as i can.

But certainly changes are being pressured for in undeniable ways, thanks to all who have done their best to tackle the Family Court and Child Protection, Care System.

So I’m recommending, that those that the IICSAinquiry or the UKCSAPT  apply to, get involved, put your testimony or evidence forward, and it’s quite easy to use the sites.

Others Lucy is championing for a Family Support Service, and so make a clear bid for the services that would have helped you, or would now.

New Adoption policies are on the cards, so get involved to help steer it.  otherwise, get behind those that can, and leave competition at the door.

Also with the recent Panorama Report ….. well here’s a book from a Survivor with a purpose, who plans to inject all monies to help youngster in the youth institutions now.  Please support and share, he is a survivor of Meddomsley, which has been achieved by the Victims/Survivors themselves and once the inquiry is over, he will release that book, hoping it’s a happy ending, but that is up to how that goes.

Link to Amazon Shame by Phil Thomas

Evidence re All Players & Cases

Who are Saboteurs CSA/Family Needs?

Click the links above to be taken straight to the sites

So i hardly look at their tripe, but i commented just now, on Abes’ failing crappy last bit of a bog er blog…….

I doubt it will go through so i copy it here:

Damn …….Right…… i strike hard 🙂 your numbers dwindling ours andother genuine ones flourishing, it’s over. Come home and face charges of child
torture, child abuse, harrassment, cybercrime and encouraging fake
charities and scammers like Angela Power Disney, Sabine K McNeil,
Belinda Mckenzie anyway, all the truth an proof is on my blog
circulating amongst networks that have never heard of you, but certainly
know what to do with disinfo agents, trouble makers, bullies, fake
campaigners, false accusers, charity scams, and everything that you
started, enabled and encouraged….relentlessly, Thank everything that
the children are not with you, and if their father is able to prove
himself to the authorities, i hope they can settle and be safe, you have

with complete disregard, continued to abuse the children, and have no
intention of stopping. That is why you are all being stopped.

Sheva

Evidence of gaslighting, bullying by hoax/trollgangs

Guidance 2222

Sep 2, 2015

SamSpade

Sep 4, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney is another batshit crazy loony with a perverted desire to make people drop their panties so she can peer at their privates. Hideous bat she is- probably the only thrill she gets

oneperfectoutfit

Sep 9, 2015

+SamSpade Yaaawwwn. Jesus Christ, can’t you lot think of some ‘arguments’ that work??

Angela Power-Disney

Sep 9, 2015

Sam Spade dear me your abuse is kindergarten nastiness….get help….SOON.

Angela Power-Disney

Sep 9, 2015

And yes….all alleged satanic paedophiles DROP YOUR EFFIN UNDERWEAR just as Michael Jackson did

SamSpade

Sep 10, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney “kindergarten”..you are obsessed aren’t you? Just like Bill Baloney who calls his film company PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange) and demands that paedophiles not be prosecuted and given immunity . Apparently you support that stance and don’t mind abusing these 2 poor kids by ensuring their images are re-posted online.

SamSpade

Sep 11, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney another fanatic who has never ever expressed the slightest concern for Ella Draper’s third child who Ella claimed is also in the hands of the Satanic Cult with her other ex-partner who she claims is a part of the cult. Angela Power-Disney, Sabine, McKenzie etc etc have never EVER said a word about this . Why?

oneperfectoutfit

Sep 11, 2015

+SamSpade The third child is an adult or almost, as far as I understand.

SamSpade

Sep 11, 2015

+oneperfectoutfit so what is he then? chopped liver? left in the hands of the satanic cult? of no interest to Ella? Of nil interest to the silly Power-DisneyLand ? In fact, bloody ignored by every one of you hoax nutters. And not that it’s Ella replying on here but more likely the child abusing druggie Cristie.

oneperfectoutfit

Sep 11, 2015

+SamSpade Have you been let out on day release?

SamSpade

Sep 12, 2015

+oneperfectoutfit
so you have no explanation as to why Ella Draper, Belinda McKenzie, Neelu Berry, Sabine McNeil etc etc etc ignore their claim Ella’s third child ( he is NOT an adult and even if he was it would make no difference) is in the cult nor have they ever bothered to ‘save’ him. Easier if you just admitted you have no explanation than beat about the bush. Not a difficult question yet not ONE Hampstead satanic fanatic will answer. Why?

Susan Banga

Sep 16, 2015

oneperfectoutfit

Sep 16, 2015

Oh God, still hawking that old shite.
Btw, I hear I’ve had a namecheck – you can tell Dingo Coyote that at least I admit ‘I know nothing’ (but trust my eyes/intuition, as has been gone over many times already on Icke forum and elsewhere). It’s the ones like Dingo, Balderson etc. that say they KNOW anything, from a distance, and so SOON – that are obviously highly suspect. So, Dingo, I’m not out here putting out any message – unlike you, obvs.

Angela Power-Disney

Sep 18, 2015

I dcn’t read/watch Hoaxstead rubbish it has been proven forensically and beyond doubt who runs it.  Interviews soon to be released where I do indeed ask Ella about James…yes he is older, yes he has a different Father also cult….and yes there are recorded domestic violence incidents involving him ….a Mother tries to protect her young, ALL her young and Ella talks about James in interviews….she clearly is NAIVE to have been seduced by not one but TWO psychopathic cult members and I have suggested she do some personal work on the vulnerabilities or achilles heel of her own psyche re that…..it is however SECONDARY to the fact that James is at least free to the extent that he is not secreted incommunicado in so called ‘care’……as Alisa and Gabriel still are.  so what is your point exactly?

pookster78

Sep 18, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney Ella stated in her “witness statement” that James has a good relationship with his father. Aww, how lovely. So she is pleased and happy to let her son continue that good relationship with a man she accuses of being a baby rapist and murderer?
A man that she claims engineered it for her to meet RD so he could have children, and then they could rape them.So I am sure you can see why people are confused that Ella and her supporters don’t focus on helping James or on the father. Mind you, Ella doesn’t seem to bother about any of the children in her videos. Too busy having a laugh and  giggle with Abraham. Ella couldn’t even be bothered to change her name from a man she accuses of rape and murder, until it was pointed out to her.

Susan Banga

Sep 18, 2015

….and ella is according to a ‘reliable source’ getting money from the supposed cult member to the tune of £1000 per month, does she refuse such ‘blood money’ or does she happily take it and feed and clothe abraham with it, or what are they living on? +pookster78

U Fredericks

Sep 18, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney She isn’t bothered at all that her eldest son has lived since 2010 with his father and his step mother, both of whom she names as being in the cult? She must be afraid that by now he has been inducted in to the multi generational cult and is eating babies himself. Has she not tried to save him from becoming a cult member? How terrible for her to know her son is at risk of such an awful fate. Now the disgusting nature of his father is out in the open he must have disowned his vile child murdering rapist cannibal father! Surely he now sees his father for the complete and utter repulsive scum he is? He must also have seen the cult tattoo his father has, that all the cult members seem to have?

What a bind she is in. No wonder it has taken a year to even mention him.

She must be so grateful for all that Abraham did for her two youngest. The injuries that resulted from Abraham’s methods are just a side issue.

pookster78

Sep 18, 2015

+Susan Banga Wouldn’t surprise me at all. I wonder what the father and eldest sons opinion is of all this. Whether the son left because of RD, or left because of Ella. Just more questions that need answers but non of these people with access are willing to ask. Probably afraid they will be named as cult members.

SamSpade

Sep 19, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney these are not “seasoned campaigners”. Baloney Maloney is afake and a real disinformation agent who was hired by Mohammed Fayed to embarass Tory polticians & the royal family until Fayed ditched him as a loose cannon. More Disney-Land b/s

SamSpade

Sep 19, 2015

+U Fredericks Ella isn;t worried about her 1st husband (or oldest son) because she lives on the generous alimony payments paid to her- as does child abuser Abraham Cristie. Power-Desneyland supports these child abusers but I think she’s a heavy drinker which may explain it.

Fred Muppet

Sep 23, 2015

God bless all victims and survivors x

U Fredericks

Sep 28, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney “Interviews soon to be released where I do indeed ask Ella about James…”
Are the interviews released yet?

Angela Power-Disney

Oct 4, 2015

quoting a wise researcher

To what are you referring here? I wonder what you mean by no evidence? Are you talking about the highly credible video testimony of two children disclosing ritual abuse by their father and a sadistic, paedophilic child-pornography-producing cult based in Hampstead? That testimony that was submitted as evidence then leaked onto the internet? Or the “Achieving Best Evidence” police interviews that were also leaked? Or the medical reports? What is all this if not “evidence”? The – evidenced – fact that this case was covered up by the police and judiciary does not negate the fact that very real, tangible and admissible evidence exists…..and was ignored.

There is other evidence, too. Evidence in the form of drawings of the alleged abusers’ distinguishing marks. Not to mention the fact that not one member has turned up to prove that they do not have these marks. And this, of course, is evidence in itself. Allow me to remind you of this guilty behaviour:

The cult complained to the Ham and High that they were being victimised……when their vicar could have ended all that pain and misery by taking off his T shirt in the privacy of the police station!
The cult shouted in the street at people; illegally hacked my email address; organised mass trolling and death threats; complained to the police and warned people off………all, of course, far more economical and clear cut than the head teacher of one of the local schools spending a morning in the presence of a police doctor!
The cult had arrested two activists and are now trying one at public expense…..when the wife of a local builder could have nipped down to see the police doctor one afternoon and cleared everyone’s names!
Lots of people could have proved the children wrong. And Abraham and Ella wrong. Thus ending the “hoax” and shaming the “conspiratards” (as you put it). Yet they did not. Nobody did. Buffy – your innocent friends are letting you down!

I take it that you do not believe the testimony, which you refer to as “utterly ridiculous crap”. That is your prerogative but I and thousands of others do believe it. So why not let us alone to our crap and get on with your own? Why is this matter at all important to you? Do you have children, even? Have you undertaken any activism in this area? Is your opinion informed? If not, then why do you imagine that it is of value or relevance to anyone?

You come across as rather ignorant. You crow as if Dutroux never existed; as if Savile was a myth; as if Melanie Shaw is lying; as if the UK government is fabricating all those “historic child abuse” cases; as if there have never been any convictions for ritual abuse! Never mind the thousands of – international – survivors, therapists, websites, witnesses, books, conferences and training courses in this field. Never mind the fact that it is generally understood that not only is evidence easy to conceal but the police are also, frequently, complicit. A specialist ritual abuse barrister was interviewed on the UK Column the other day and stressed that people like you, who insist on disbelieving the evidence present a real problem for victims and survivors. In fact, this man went so far as to refer to your attitudes as “secondary abuse” because survivors of ritual abuse had already been through so much, the last they needed to hear on their escape and recovery from the most traumatic of situations was scorn and contempt.

A recent research article, published in the Journal of Child Abuse, interviewed over 60 survivors of ritual abuse and concluded that one of the main problems in the area is people like you, who insist on ignoring the evidence and perpetuating ignorance and suffering. Recent articles published in the Australia’s Journal of Psychiatry say the same. Recent books on ritual abuse and mind control all say the same: people like you are part of the problem.

And it is “me and my ilk” who are striving to be part of the solution.”

and p.s I rarely drink.  Alcohol.  And have never drunk blood….get help you sick fuck

Fred Muppet

Oct 4, 2015

yeah exactly. holding any survivors accountable or responsible is wrong

pookster78

Oct 4, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney
During that “video testimony” G is asked about Richie from social services, and whether he comes to the school. He starts by saying yes, and then during his sentence says “is that true”. If it was his story he should know whether it’s true or not.The children answer almost in unison, a clear sign of having been over the material many times. So the video testimony is actually not particularly convincing and we only see the footage that Ella and Abe chose to give Sabine.

During the ABE interviews G is describing teachers and pupils of a school which he had not attended when the pool incident was supposed to have occurred. Further, he said that when raped he was hit with a spoon…Abraham admits hitting them with a spoon. Moreover, when describing the swimming he initially says it was fun. In fact, he is excitedly telling the officer about racing his dad and sister. The officer has to draw him back to talking about the abuse. A clear sign that he actually has happy memories of the swimming. Plus, both children retracted their statements during ABE, saying that Abraham hit them and forced them to lie. The physical evidence shows he did indeed hit them. The ABE interviews are evidence of Abraham coercing the children.

The medical reports were inconclusive in terms of sexual abuse, especially since the fissures were amended. What they do show is numerous fresh wounds that the children say were Abraham, including dried blood, perforated ear drum and abrasion at the ear. Something Ella and Abe tried to blame on Ricky. Proving that they are willing to blame Ricky for abuse inflicted by Abraham (I remind you of the rape and spoon I mentioned).

“Covered up”?…em….who organised the medical exam, ABE interviews, drive around and premise searches???…The police.

According to Nemesis Green and Dicky Rearman, Ella and Abe have other drawings. There is also suggestion that the other drawings were never handed to police, hence why Belinda had them. Why not?…who is covering up by hiding evidence from the police?

Nobody should have to go to the police to prove their innocence. Plus, Abraham accused Belinda of being part of the cult, and all cult members have tattoos. So, when is Belinda going to show her genitals to prove the kids story???

No, the “activists” shouted at people in the street and outside the church.

People believing the children when they said Abraham coerced them to lie, is not mass trolling. It’s called having a different opinion.

What was economical was verifying the children’s story by having them point out Mr H’s house (which they couldn’t), and finding that no secret rooms exist. As stated, the police considered multiple arrests but would need more supporting evidence in order to obtain warrants. It is due to the secret rooms not existing…etc, that the investigation paused. Then the children retracted and said it was all Abrahams fault. No chance of warrants then. The police therefore proved the children wrong, and the children admitted lying. You may have complaints about that process or felt the police could have done more. However, to conclude they are cult members is just fantasy.

It’s fantasy like your “activism”. You are an attention seeker who will make up stories about anything and anybody. From MK Ultra mind control, to soldiers pissing (or cumming) on you, to your family being paedophiles (causing your daughter to disown you), to accusing your father of murdering your sister. All in your head.

Other cases have zero bearing on whether this case is true or not. It must stand on it’s own merits.

People like me do believe the evidence. The evidence is that a convicted child abuser and fantasist (eg Abes blood transfusion pseudoscience) abused these children and made them lie. Something the children say themselves.  These children should be given anonymity and left alone to live their lives. Not be ab/used to give you something to be an “activist” about. You are the problem, not the solution.

If you want to know what guilty behaviour looks like…well… the guilty run….now where is Ella and Abe again?
Why won’t they answer questions. Such as, what was the nature of Abrahams other child abuse convictions?…What was the nature of his convictions for Dishonesty (fraud)…..What was the nature of that child porn found on Abrahams phone?
The public are waiting for the answers.

oneperfectoutfit

Oct 4, 2015

+pookster78 Ugh, you are disgusting. How dare you say to someone who purports to be an abuse survivor that it is all in their head?
Have you got evidence for that assertion?
I’ll answer that for you – NO, so fuck off!

pookster78

Oct 5, 2015

+oneperfectoutfit
Has she shown evidence she was part of  MK Ultra mind control experiments?…No.Has she shown that her father murdered her sister?…No

Has she shown that a satanic cult exists who murder babies, rape them and eat them?…No

Yet she is perfectly happy to create videos making those accusations.

Angie goes around speaking as if all these things have been proven, casually and happily accusing people of heinous crimes and destroying lives in the process. She is the one who puts that information out in the public forum. I struggle to think of anyone who comes across anymore disingenuous than she does.

oneperfectoutfit

Oct 5, 2015

Well she should know more than you do about what has happened in her own life! Simples!

pookster78

Oct 5, 2015

+oneperfectoutfit Well done for stating the obvious, but that doesn’t mean we should all believe her at face value.

oneperfectoutfit

Oct 5, 2015

Not believing her at face value is a bit different from outright saying she’s lying about it.
What part of logic don’t you understand??

pookster78

Oct 5, 2015

+oneperfectoutfit
Ok
‘I do not believe her at face value due to various factors and believe it is all in her head’You happy now?

oneperfectoutfit

Oct 7, 2015

Yes, that’s better.

cgi plains

Oct 20, 2015

+pookster78  WHY DON’T YOU BELIEVE THE CHILDREN..??

cgi plains

Oct 20, 2015

+SamSpade  WHY DON’T YOU BELIEVE THE CHILDREN..??

Sheva Burton

Oct 27, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney ffs btw i have also got emails from tom at sky, and btw carry battle scars, just that those of us, really seasoned, to not display and act out online this way ! baloney has some coming from survivors that he has really hurt and damaged, but that can’t yet express it. baloney always embellishes his films on abuse, like the disney fiasco re ben and the pretend walk for justice.

Post Nein

Oct 30, 2015

+Angela Power-Disney What about the Chantelle from his last family. Him beating those kids and unsuccessfully turning them against their father?
Him beating his ex wife in a hospital ward?If Abraham has done it to one family? Why not another ?
Chantelle warned Ella before he took the kids to Morocco, beating them with spoons and threatening to kill them? Is that the kid of man you support?

Sheva Burton

Nov 9, 2015

she doesn’t care who gets hurt, i can take it, but it’s not in my town, if it was…but the children, she cares nothing for their feelings, displayed contempt in many convo’s, dismissive supercillious, snearing, sublimal speaking, you are so shown up for the charlatan you are, and defaming me, was a mistake, you care nothing for those children, they are safer than with Abe, any one would know that, even with a quarter brain cell ! https://crossofchangeorg.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/naughty-scarlet-makes-sabine-cry/

Sheva Burton

Nov 9, 2015

yet sabine & you cry cos you feel bullied ? what about the children having to be escorted by police cos of you abusive nuts

Sheva Burton

Nov 9, 2015

what about the shit going thru doors, the leaflets plastered everywhere, you talk rubbish, and think you are clever, in your ego’s, in denial, acting just like abusers do, and thinking survivor groups won’t notice ?  sabine don’t carry her scars, she bleeds them everywhere for pity and donations, we all got families, hardship, and do this for nowt, so fking what ! my choice, never bleated about it online, in 6yrs, with a twisted spine, hardly anyone even knows that… all survivors carry what isn’t healed yet, how dare you fking talk down at us
Maybe we’ll get a rally in your town eh ?
+SamSpade Your posts can only signify one or two or both of these, either you’re a f…ing pedophile yourself, or a disinfo agent, or both, which is the more likely. Nothing else makes any sense. A concerned citizen worried about supposedly false allegations? Naaaah.

Sheva Burton

11:18 AM

+António Ferreira
https://crossofchangeorg.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/the-hampstead-child-abuse-the-world-is-watching-rcos-judgement-day-for-abe/  you all put it out to the world, now the world can see the truth, you care about children ? naaaah and who are you, anyway ?

Sheva Burton

11:20 AM

Sheva Burton

11:23 AM

+SamSpade
see my blog at the batshit crazy araya soma & bully mouth piece joe blogs telling me pants need to come down, and abusing me, like anyone who dares speak out, suppressing the very people i tried to free up.

Sheva Burton

11:27 AM

so none of those spreading this bs care that you support paedo supporters as proven here https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/another-lying-bail-breaching-blog-from-sabine/

Sheva Burton

11:31 AM

+Angela Power-Disney
stop suppressing the truth, trying to handle and control us. it ain’t going down well, at all

Sheva Burton

11:35 AM

+cgi plains
we believe that children who hate #Abe so much so that they would rather be in care, should be believed about the torture, threats to bury them alive, beatings, cruel disgusting abuse, that abe has displayed to all of us, as have all the paedo supporters, pretending to care about children, twisting, reversing, gaslighting, bulling us adults, so what chance the children, Abe has targetted me now, and the World of real online child protection that ignore this shit, are now on it… see the results, and thanks for all the slurs, brilliant evidence, that i can show, to the real groups, that know me, and my work and credibility.

Sheva Burton

11:40 AM

you all act like paedos, speak like paedos and bully like paedos, you support #Abe who had images of child abuse on his phone, you all support #BelindaMckenze n #SabineMcNeil n #MaggieTuttle who all have proven backing from paedos #TerenceEwing #BrianPaed n #ChrisFay Bill Maloney’s witness, who was nowhere to be seen back in #Naypic days, ask #MaryMoss another sidelined real campaigner of old

Post Nein

12:26 PM

+Sheva Burton two tactics being used again and again. Your a pedo or government agent. Gets a tad boring to be honest. For what? Believing the children? I won’t argue any longer.

Sensible people would be able to talk without throwing nasty terms at people or unrealistic things like everyone being govenment agents. They have no evidence of either as much as Ab believes everyone is Ricky Dearman. No! I’m Spartacus!

Post Nein

12:28 PM

+Sheva Burton didn’t mary moss distance herself from Chris Fay?

Oh but Chris Fay is to be believed as BBC are in with the hoax! If BBC discredit someone, they have to be a hero? If anyone speaks out about belinda and co, ect,ect.

Sheva Burton

12:32 PM

+Post Nein
she has totally denounced him, as a fake, but struggled to get support, another wounded warrior, sidelined and overshadowed by team #paedoprotectors

Sheva Burton

12:35 PM

+Angela Power-Disney
and your handling, gaslighting, sneering at #CSAsurvivors is wellknown, easy to recognise, you nasty #bully happy to encourage #cybercrime lie, and smear, so where is the proof that you asked me for a skype convo? cos i have all convo’s and it ain’t there, so stop with your innuendoes, arn’t you embarrassed by the videos, of you discussing me, cos it sure woke up the world of real online child protectors, that avoid the likes of you like the plague, usually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJbTNZDoV2E

Sheva Burton

12:39 PM

maybe check my twitter feed, and try it all on them Angela, see how far you get, regardless any that are supporting this are now, being targetted by the guys who know what to do about #paedosupportingfales

Sheva Burton

12:40 PM

you better knooooo

Name & shame fake CSA/ForcedAdoption matrix

The people listed have made this a World Online Issue by their cynical misuse of tech, needy people & groups.

So now we need to get the Online Community helping to fight Child Sexual Abuse to help us reveal this ugly mess, made in the UK.

Since our rallies were co opted.  The evidence is credible, collated by serious investigators, who unlike them are not affiliated with paedophiles and scam artists.

Please once you have realised how seriously our campaigns UK have been damage, how many people hurt, and more importantly, how they couldn’t care less for the children being abused right now, both online and for real, and have no intention of stopping, as shown in various conversations, copied to this blog.

Please report the videos, too.

Click Links below.

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The Innocence Revolution 14th April

The Innocence Revolution 14th April

This is a global day for events around the world to support each other, to create events, to speak out, about child sexual abuse.  There are some UK events, a prayer day in Bradford, flashmobs in london & manchester.   So far.  Our facebook page, scroll down, click on the right has two event pages, for the coming April Month of Action Against Child Sexual Abuse 2013.  Our silence & secrets allow abuse to continue, it is the light of our truth, finally being listened to more & more, (only cos we wouldn,t shut up, nor go away), that has forced this out further into the open.   We are the voice.

Our name was inspired by ‘return to innocence’, by Enigma.

Starter for flashmob: ‘Your,e The Voice’ by John Farnham